Dannii Minogue | GLAMOUR Unfiltered

I love it, I'm so about that.

Like ho looks like Elle Macpherson.

I have Kissed a Girl.

This is an epic moment for all the ladies out there

that have been wanting this show

for lesbian and queer women

who are looking for love.

It's quite unbelievable

that there hasn't been a dating show for them before.

It's exciting and it's nerve wracking.

I hope that everybody realizes someone's gotta be the person

to put their hand up and say,

This has never existed before, but we'll do it.

The people have come up to me and said,

You know, my younger self

found your music as that safe place, that comfort blanket.

Maybe now we're making a TV show

that's also that important to people.

I have kissed a girl.

I kissed a girl in a video that I did.

I recorded a song for Mardi Gras to use.

We made a video for that,

and we had me kissing a girl in it,

and this was like '98,

I think, and it was scandalous,

like it was outrageous, and that's why I wanted to do it.

It's just me and this girl,

and you see us hanging out at this fun party,

and we just kiss and it's, like,

for me it's like this is just showing an environment,

and it's not a big deal.

I think we've got a long way to go

before women feel comfortable about just being themselves.

There are a lot of conversations from the girls on set

that they're very sexualized.

They get approached by guys all the time

if they're to kiss in public.

The girls were saying most of the bars that they go to

are sort of underground.

They're like, We love to be out and proud,

and more like the boys bars, and they're on the street level

and you can see them and you, it's visible,

but in a way at the moment,

because the girls

don't have that same comfort zone as the guys,

it's probably a blessing that they do have some privacy.

Like they're saying they have to be very aware of themselves

when they're out and about

in a different way than the guys do.

It's been a really interesting ride for us both.

We've absolutely loved being able to perform together

and really special when we perform

and our parents can be there to see it,

and that just brings you back to being just a girl.

I'm just a sister, I'm just a daughter

and they're our, you know, special moments.

We've always had each other there

to understand those very personal and private moments

that nobody else would understand.

Even though we work and we have our teams,

our people and stuff,

nobody quite knows what it feels like

when you're in the center looking out,

and the nerves or the disappointment.

If you are getting sick and canceling a show,

everyone else is told you've got the day off,

and you're just like, you know,

stuff that we have to deal with

that is just particular to the job.

Social media wasn't a thing,

and the media definitely loved the headline

that we were just, you know, at each other,

and that never went away

until social media popped up

and you really sort of could say what you wanted

to say and be heard.

I think social media is good and bad,

and it takes a lot of time, effort,

and energy to navigate it

whether you're famous or not famous.

For me it's been the most incredibly positive thing.

There was an an idea of me that was projected,

which completely wasn't me,

and then once social media came on board,

I can't tell you the amount of people that came up to me,

and said, Oh God, I thought you were totally different.

It's like, for me it was very helpful.

It's connected me to incredible people,

and I think that if you're very clear

about what your boundaries are within that space,

and what you put out, you'll attract that.

We all want it just to be like a safe, fun, cool,

supportive place.

You know, it takes a lot of time and monitoring,

but it's a fun place.

[Dannii laughing] Oh that's great.

I haven't heard it, but I love it, I'm so about that.

I think there's just a love fest going both ways.

I feel like I've heard so many stories and said,

read so many things from people in the queer community

where they had to tell someone and they wanted to tell me.

It's a huge deal.

Balance, it's just hard,

and it's not defined by age,

balancing just being a parent and work.

I'm very lucky,

I've been able to take some time and space from work

to be able to really be with him,

and enjoy being a mom.

That's the only way where age comes into it.

It's like I started working when I was seven,

so I can afford to say,

Okay, now I'm gonna just work a little bit,

and then I'm gonna step back and be a mom.

So that's been really cool.

You definitely understand your parents

after you become a parent.

There's a lot of things that make sense,

and I've heard other people say this,

you don't understand the word love in the same way

until you're a parent and it's everything,

it's every cell of your body, it's overwhelming.

I was so homesick the other morning

I was almost just gonna get my bags

and go straight to the airport.

He probably hasn't even realized I've gone,

you know, he is a teenager.

But yeah, the love is big.

I love seeing his relationship grow

with my family away from me.

Like he adores my parents to the point where I'm like,

I think he likes your more than he likes me.

And then my brother and my sister,

he has a great relationship with.

I think my brother's got two boys.

Kylie doesn't have any kids,

but just to see how incredible she is with kids.

I wasn't like that when I had Ethan.

I'm like, Whoa, what do you do with this?

Just didn't have a clue.

And she's the absolute natural out of the three of us.

She's just incredible, and they all love her,

and my brother is just,

he's kept Kylie and I on track

and down to earth for so long.

So it's really nice that Ethan has that as well.

I don't have 100% body confidence.

I wish I did.

It's been a bit of a tricky ride over the years.

Yeah, I guess being a teenager in the media spotlight,

and my body changing,

and me trying to catch up getting used to it

has left me feeling a bit scarred from that.

So every day it's kind of something

that I gotta pick myself up from, and you know,

you look back and you go, Oh my God, I looked amazing.

what were you worried about back then?

And I've heard so many older women say

you'll look back on now and say,

what were you worried about?

Probably one of the best things that I've seen,

and I know this just sounds like

I'm here promoting this show,

but I've said it to everyone, watching I Kissed A Girl,

and different shapes and sizes, the body positivity,

I'm like, these girls are amazing,

and it really uplifted me watching the series,

and the younger generation, I hope,

are not as scarred as someone my age,

like we grew up, we only had supermodels on magazines

and there were no other women to look at,

and you only compared yourself to them.

I worked with Elle Macpherson on a TV show,

and when I grew up,

she was on the cover of the magazines everywhere.

I was like, who looks like Elle Macpherson?

She's Amazon, these broad shoulders, athletic,

like I'm never gonna be like Elle Macpherson,

and so we were really just shown this tiny little lens

of what women were.

Again, social media I think has just been incredible.

Women are all of these things.

And some of the people who look like the ones

that were on the magazines have more body issues

than other people who don't look like them.

But if we can like help each other and embrace,

try and embrace ourselves, and embrace each other,

and help each other is amazing, you know?

I have to remind myself to do it

is to make space doing positive stuff.

It's things that are bit more restful for me at the moment,

you know, as everything used to just be racing around

and explosive, and yeah,

I feel like I need those quiet times

in between all the busyness.

I love meditating.

I should exercise more,

but working on that, I love cooking,

so you're really kind of doing stuff.

But it just takes my mind to a great place.

I love food, and I like feeding people.

If there was a kitchen here, and I had time,

I would cook you something.

The craziest thing was at the time,

he was the hot thing, he was the coolest thing.

He was very respected.

Nobody wrote anything bad about him.

When I was on his TV show, when I was trying to leave there,

he was very lechy with me, and it was very uncomfortable,

and it made me think it's really,

is that what I have to go through to go to and from work?

And yeah, that comment has come up a lot.

It was just my instinctive comment, that's how I felt.

It's a different time and space that we're in now

where you can say things,

and feel like you're going to be heard.

It's a different time in business

where you feel like you can tell people this is not cool.

Then it was really eye-opening for women

to come out and tell their stories.

I think a lot of them would've come out sooner

if there was an environment

where they felt like they could say things.

So hopefully things really change.

I still think there's a way to go, you know,

I think we still have,

we have people of all ages in our industry,

and the one thing I never want to hear again is to say,

Oh well they're from a different generation,

so they don't know how to stop being that,

or not say those things or be different.

We have to stop it, you know.

For anybody who is a victim out there,

I'm sure they will tell you we have a long way to go

just in life.

Success is enjoying right now,

and not looking back on everything,

and going, Whoa, that was cool.

Whoa, that was cool.

Just in like my success

is I'm doing something that I love,

and I'm enjoying it still,

like been some moments where you think,

Gosh, can I get through this?

Can I pick myself up?

Can I pick myself up again?

And I've shown myself that I can.

So I think failure's a really important lesson for that,

and it's just in those times I just feel like I'm so lucky,

I've got great people around me

and people that I love,

and that have this really strong stable family,

'cause not everyone has that.

I feel very empowered having had the opportunity to be a mom

and marvel at what I've been able to do.

Like since I've been here,

my friends are like, How big is Ethan now?

And I'm like, Let me get out my phone and show you.

And I'm like, I made that, you know?

That makes me feel powerful and strong, and yeah.

I recorded and released a song called Thinking About Us.

The guy who is the DJ messages me this morning.

The first thing I wake up to is,

We're number nine on the US Dance Charts.

And I was like, what?

This is insane.

It's more like a hobby now for me

than a career as it was.

Like that was the only thing

paying the rent back in the day.

That's what I did 24/7,

and I just don't really remember having many days off.

Now I can do it just for fun and enjoyment.